Comments on: Union Go Mess http://www.kemplog.com/2007/04/11/union-go-mess/ Life and law in Eastern Indiana Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:46:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Connie Mather http://www.kemplog.com/2007/04/11/union-go-mess/#comment-21133 Connie Mather Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:49:09 +0000 http://www.kemplog.com/2007/04/11/union-go-mess/#comment-21133 Indianna sounds an awful lot like New York, and we are having the same problems. After taking many intermediary steps, our solution was to act as agents of the local, state, and federal agencies because they were unable or unwilling to do so. Please look up filing of Citizen's suit in Federal Courts of New York: Coon, Strecker, Mather, Keppel and Mangan vs. Willet Dairy Corp., Eldred Bros LLC. ,naming Dennis and Scott Eldred as CAFO owners. We have been fighting the Dairy for violations of THe clean Water Act and other alleged violations, as well as for personal damages to our health and homes. I tell you about this because Indianna's response sounds so much like New York's response to these sweet-smelling CAFO's, with their wonderful effects on the natural resources and homes and people in the rural areas of our communities. Please e-mail if interested in more info. or just to commiserate on the most fragrant days. eelnoc2000@yaho.com Indianna sounds an awful lot like New York, and we are having the same problems.
After taking many intermediary steps, our solution was to act as agents of the local, state, and federal agencies because they were unable or unwilling to do so.
Please look up filing of Citizen’s suit in Federal Courts of New York:
Coon, Strecker, Mather, Keppel and Mangan vs. Willet Dairy Corp., Eldred Bros LLC. ,naming Dennis and Scott Eldred as CAFO owners.
We have been fighting the Dairy for violations of THe clean Water Act and other alleged violations, as well as for personal damages to our health and homes.
I tell you about this because Indianna’s response sounds so much like New York’s response to these sweet-smelling CAFO’s, with their wonderful effects on the natural resources and homes and people in the rural areas of our communities.
Please e-mail if interested in more info. or just to commiserate on the most fragrant days.
eelnoc2000@yaho.com

]]> By: Eric Stickdorn http://www.kemplog.com/2007/04/11/union-go-mess/#comment-14453 Eric Stickdorn Fri, 13 Apr 2007 13:11:19 +0000 http://www.kemplog.com/2007/04/11/union-go-mess/#comment-14453 I recommend to everyone who is concerned (and I'm one of them) to call your state legislators TODAY. The yearly session is quickly coming to an end and we will have to wait yet another year to attempt to drive home the message. I was told personally by one of our Indiana Senators that the reason the laws and statutes in Indiana are not more restrictive is because the average Hoosier is not concerned. It's that simple. Most people in Indiana do not, and believe they will not, live next to one of these open sewage compounds. There is nothing clean, humane, modern, safe or neighborly about them, but you won't know until one is next to you (and the ag-biz keeps propagating the false messages to the contrary). That's exactly the dismissive attitude I had until I learned the truth through regrettable experience. Let (as ag-biz calls them) your "cousins" in the city(s) know what's going on. Call your state legislators (see www.in.gov). Call your county commissioners. It's as simple as your vote. If you live in an Ag-zoned district of Indiana you are 6 months away from open, under-regulated sewage. I recommend to everyone who is concerned (and I’m one of them) to call your state legislators TODAY. The yearly session is quickly coming to an end and we will have to wait yet another year to attempt to drive home the message.

I was told personally by one of our Indiana Senators that the reason the laws and statutes in Indiana are not more restrictive is because the average Hoosier is not concerned. It’s that simple. Most people in Indiana do not, and believe they will not, live next to one of these open sewage compounds.

There is nothing clean, humane, modern, safe or neighborly about them, but you won’t know until one is next to you (and the ag-biz keeps propagating the false messages to the contrary). That’s exactly the dismissive attitude I had until I learned the truth through regrettable experience. Let (as ag-biz calls them) your “cousins” in the city(s) know what’s going on. Call your state legislators (see http://www.in.gov). Call your county commissioners. It’s as simple as your vote. If you live in an Ag-zoned district of Indiana you are 6 months away from open, under-regulated sewage.

]]> By: Pila http://www.kemplog.com/2007/04/11/union-go-mess/#comment-14437 Pila Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:03:16 +0000 http://www.kemplog.com/2007/04/11/union-go-mess/#comment-14437 Oh dear Ms. Thurman: I thought that Mr. Kemp was being sarcastic. :) Hint: he's no fan of CAFOs. Oh dear Ms. Thurman: I thought that Mr. Kemp was being sarcastic. :) Hint: he’s no fan of CAFOs.

]]> By: Pat Gerrich http://www.kemplog.com/2007/04/11/union-go-mess/#comment-14430 Pat Gerrich Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:42:35 +0000 http://www.kemplog.com/2007/04/11/union-go-mess/#comment-14430 This is what is upsetting me. You see where it says the CAFO has a history of polluting. Now, to me, the first time they pollute would be the last time. How many times does it take for a CAFO to pollute to get them out? Each time this happens, the environment is greatly harmed. They say they clean it up, but I am not sure about that statement. The other thing that gets me is a lot of these CAFOs are not from the United States. They come over here because land is cheaper and the laws are to their liking. Our great state is being harmed and the big money makers are getting rich. We will stay here and put up with the ruin of our great state. How much should a person take in order to have good air to breathe and clean water to drink? This is what is upsetting me. You see where it says the CAFO has a history of polluting. Now, to me, the first time they pollute would be the last time. How many times does it take for a CAFO to pollute to get them out? Each time this happens, the environment is greatly harmed. They say they clean it up, but I am not sure about that statement. The other thing that gets me is a lot of these CAFOs are not from the United States. They come over here because land is cheaper and the laws are to their liking. Our great state is being harmed and the big money makers are getting rich. We will stay here and put up with the ruin of our great state. How much should a person take in order to have good air to breathe and clean water to drink?

]]> By: Tracy Thurman http://www.kemplog.com/2007/04/11/union-go-mess/#comment-14387 Tracy Thurman Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:20:14 +0000 http://www.kemplog.com/2007/04/11/union-go-mess/#comment-14387 What world are you living in?!!! There have been NUMEROUS manure spills and incidences of pollution in this state from MANY of theses CAFO's. The Salamonie Reservoir is polluted from a CAFO near Andrews, In. They have been brought up on charges several times. IDEM has become a joke as far as upholding these so called regulations, slap on the wrist a little fine(that this HUGE operations can well afford)and on they go. Listen they may "look" good when they go in but eventually they will NOT be able to handle the massive amounts of waste coming from these FACTORY farms. Tracy Thurman What world are you living in?!!! There have been NUMEROUS manure spills and incidences of pollution in this state from MANY of theses CAFO’s. The Salamonie Reservoir is polluted from a CAFO near Andrews, In. They have been brought up on charges several times. IDEM has become a joke as far as upholding these so called regulations, slap on the wrist a little fine(that this HUGE operations can well afford)and on they go. Listen they may “look” good when they go in but eventually they will NOT be able to handle the massive amounts of waste coming from these FACTORY farms. Tracy Thurman

]]> By: Sandra Florea http://www.kemplog.com/2007/04/11/union-go-mess/#comment-14383 Sandra Florea Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:41:02 +0000 http://www.kemplog.com/2007/04/11/union-go-mess/#comment-14383 Thomas Kemp, I can't understand from all the information about these CAFO's and all bad that can and does happen ,why anyone would concider letting all this doing harm to the health of people and not taking care of God's land. We all are responsiable of our actions!!!Judgement day is comming!! Thomas Kemp, I can’t understand from all the information about these CAFO’s and all bad that can and does happen ,why anyone would concider letting all this doing harm to the health of people and not taking care of God’s land. We all are responsiable of our actions!!!Judgement day is comming!!

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